hey guys, hopefully will be picking up a stilo 3 dr 1.6 dynamic this saturday in trade for my current classic mini, nt a bad swap eh?

just wondering what i need to look out for when i go look at it to make sure i dont buy a duff one.

cheers
chris

How to Negotiate

Always expect to receive a discount. If you go into a buying situation not expecting to get a discount, you will not get one. Be positive and you'll be amazed how easy it is when you ask the right questions.

Tip 1
Build rapport but do not make a friend. Blunt or aggressive negotiation will not work. Rarely does a car seller need your purchase so badly that they will tolerate rudeness. Chat to them and be warm whilst looking at the car. But do not get too friendly or feel sorry for the seller because you want to get a good deal.

Tip 2
Ask for a discount without being embarrassed. Tell the sales person: "I would love to buy this car, but my wife/husband will go nuts if I pay this price. What can you do to help me?" It does not necessarily matter if your partner does not mind what you pay - or even that you do not have a partner. This is called using higher authority. It means that you can remain on good terms with the seller, but still push for a better deal. It makes the seller more inclined to move on price.
Never accept the first offer. It makes the salesman think he has offered too much - but he still has more discount to give. Whatever they offer say, "that helps, but I'm still not sure I could face my partner." Or: "Surely you can do better than that?"

Tip 3
Use the power of silence. If the salesman makes you an offer, or you have asked him to improve his offer, resist the temptation to speak. Just wait. For several minutes if necessary. The silence will be painful for you, but more painful for the salesman. Eventually he will crack and start to offer you 'sweeteners' to close the deal.

Tip 4
Know your prices. When dealing with garages, make sure you know what's on offer at other garages in the area. Many will match the offers of their competitors, so you just have to ask, "Will you match your competitor's prices?"

Tip 5
Ask garages for added value. If you have exhausted the potential discount options, ask the garage for bonus items. For example say, "the stereo's not very good and all the mats need replacing."

Tip 6
Let go of the emotion. It is hard not to be excited when buying a car. But you need to let go or you will not be able to negotiate the best deal. Always tell yourself: 'There will be another car that is just as good or maybe even better'.

Tip 7
Ask questions in garages. Start with, "How's business?
If it is good, say, "Oh well I was hoping to get a deal, but I'll leave it," if it is bad say, "Well, if I can the right price, you might get a sale today." You can then move on to:
"How can you help me get the price down?"
"When will there be a special offer on? I can come back."
"Who has the authority to make decisions on discounts?" Ask questions of private sellers:
"Why do you want to sell?"
"How quickly do you want to sell?"
"What can you do on the price please?"

Tip 8
Start low and concede reluctantly. If you can afford £5,000, offer less so that you have room to move. If they baulk at your offer, stay calm and ask, "What would you accept?" Then, pretend to baulk yourself, perhaps even wince. And make another offer.

Tip 9
If a seller thinks you are friendly but savvy, they will tell you the truth. So find a useful fact from the buyers guides to use as a question - even though you will know the answer. For example, "Should the car have had a cam belt change?"

You will be able to tell how trustworthy they are by the answer they give. DO NOT act smart and say, "This car should have had its cam belt changed by now!" This will put the seller's back up and they will not tell you the useful information you need.

Tip 10
Avoid splitting the difference (or 'meeting in the middle).If you offer to split the difference the sales person will split it again, which means you have moved 75 per cent of the way towards their price and they have only moved 25 per cent towards you. If the sales person offers to split the difference, say "I cannot do that, but I'll meet you half way between my offer and the offer you just made."

Deal closing
After the negotiation pay a deposit of £50 - £100 and get a written receipt, stating the price, car details and seller's particulars.When you return to collect the car, pay the balance by bank cheque (simply ask your bank for a bank cheque to buy a car). Ensure you have the V5 log book (filled out by the seller to confirm the sale) and a bill of sale before you drive away.

I know it is not really for your situation... but still... hope it helps!

hey guys, cheers for the responce, hopefully i will be driving back to lincoln from liverpool in a little more comfort than on the way there in the mini,
and if the deal does go head ill be up for some window stickers ect

cheers for the welcom

chris

also whilst im here, what sort of milage should a stilo change its cam belt?
cheers
chris

hey guys, cheers for the responce
and cheers mrs pnl that article was usefull

just given the min a wash, will miss it but hopefully the deal will go ahead this sat and if so i will get some pics up

cheers guys

chris

drum brakes front and back :) i bet that was fun
getting excited now, setting off at about 7 in the morning from lincoln, to go to sheffield to then go to liverpoool, i hope its a decent car,
im even not going out all night to celebrate handing all my uni work in, may have a sneaky few though

cheers
chris