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    Default fiat stilo 1.2 16v 2002 p0340 camshaft failure

    i mean camshaft position failure sensor

    i have had a few problems with this stilo 1.2 16v. the code reader is giving p0340 camshaft position sensor. fiat say that this engine doesnt have a camshaft position sensor, but it does have a phase sensor. so i changed the phase sensor and i still have the mangement light on and the same fault from the code reader. the engine runs fine.

    occasionally i get an o2 sensor fault on my obdii scanner

    the faults i am getting are

    1. car revs up on start up on its own through to 6krpm then stalls , this happens occasionally
    2. engine fault light comes on everytime i start it


    i disconnected the battery after fitting the phase sensor to try and clear the ecu, i reconnected it 24 hours later and the engine fault light came on straight away. the car drives perfect and the engine runs smooth.

    any ideas before i set fire to it!
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    Default Re: fiat stilo 1.2 16v 2002 p0340 camshaft failure

    Revs shooting to 6k revs sound very much like the TPS or related problems [throttle body ]..I am also reading that you disconnected the battery to clear the codes on the ecu when you need to leave it connected to do this ..disconnecting the battery only resets the ecu to its original peramiters.. [usually] but this doesnt always work..what is the code you are getting on the lambda sensor..? if you are still getting the same code from the phase/cam sensor then there is still a problem some where check condition of all wiring and connectors clean connectors if need be with contact cleaner..other than this I cant suggest anything else..
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    I have reset the code p0340 using my obdii scanner. The code stays clear when you turn the ignition to position 2. then when you start the car the p0340 code pops up again straight away. i have cleaned all the contacts and plugs with contact cleaner. I am suspecting it is the crank sensor as evidently this can cause the p0340 code aswell as its not in sync with the square wave from the cam sensor. the only other thing i can think is that the belt is slighty out on the timing and this would trigger this fault aswell maybe?

    is there a way of adjusting the cam belt without moving a tooth on the pully as i am thinking it could be just a bit out causing the sensor to pick up the fault out of sync. the car doesnt seem that fast on acceleration, i know its only a 1.2 but it seems to take forever to get to 60mph. well over 10 seconds.

    i cant remember the code from the lambda sensor but it said o2 sensor A bank 1. but that code has been cleared and hasn't come back.

    Quote Originally Posted by PNL View Post
    Revs shooting to 6k revs sound very much like the TPS or related problems [throttle body ]..I am also reading that you disconnected the battery to clear the codes on the ecu when you need to leave it connected to do this ..disconnecting the battery only resets the ecu to its original peramiters.. [usually] but this doesnt always work..what is the code you are getting on the lambda sensor..? if you are still getting the same code from the phase/cam sensor then there is still a problem some where check condition of all wiring and connectors clean connectors if need be with contact cleaner..other than this I cant suggest anything else..
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    Default Re: fiat stilo 1.2 16v 2002 p0340 camshaft failure

    Quote Originally Posted by mattfiat View Post
    I have reset the code p0340 using my obdii scanner. The code stays clear when you turn the ignition to position 2. then when you start the car the p0340 code pops up again straight away. i have cleaned all the contacts and plugs with contact cleaner. I am suspecting it is the crank sensor as evidently this can cause the p0340 code aswell as its not in sync with the square wave from the cam sensor. the only other thing i can think is that the belt is slighty out on the timing and this would trigger this fault aswell maybe?

    is there a way of adjusting the cam belt without moving a tooth on the pully as i am thinking it could be just a bit out causing the sensor to pick up the fault out of sync. the car doesnt seem that fast on acceleration, i know its only a 1.2 but it seems to take forever to get to 60mph. well over 10 seconds.

    i cant remember the code from the lambda sensor but it said o2 sensor A bank 1. but that code has been cleared and hasn't come back.
    Crank sensors normally give you persitant starting problems have you had any of that..if you suspect it then its an easy change and would I suppose rule it out at least..with regards to the shifting the cam belt then NO there is not a way to shift the belt without retimeing the engine and for that you need cam locking tools to hold the cam on the correct possition..pstons on the 1.2 must all be inline and not No1 at top dead centre..

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    HI!
    I have the same error code - P0340 after every start of engine.

    and other symptoms are identical!
    1. car revs up on start up on its own through to 6krpm then stalls , this happens occasionally
    2. engine fault light comes on everytime i start it
    I changed sensor for new and no results.


    Did you solve this problem with your stilo ?

    Stilo 2003 1.2 16V

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    Anyone help me?
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    P0340 error camshaft/crankshaft sensor fault , how to fix
    FIAT STILO 1.2 16v

    symptoms,
    p0340 fault
    cam sensor
    crank sensor
    ecu fault
    cam sensor circuit fault
    crank sensor circuit fault


    engine starts then revs up to 6k rpm on its own then stalls.
    managment light stays on
    car runs low and power
    sometimes drives ok

    do not buy the cam sensor, do not buy a crank sensor, do not buy an ecu etc etc. its a simple problem you would struggle to realize as the cams run off one camwheel but have 2 cogs inside syncing them together. so timing appears to be ok but actually isnt.
    hope this helps you guys.

    yes we sorted it in the end. It is the cam sync timing.

    basically both your cams run off a cog system, when the cams become out of sync they cause this problem.

    you have to take the inlet manifold off to adjust the cams and have a fiat tool to align them properly.

    i however have a good mechanic mate who is very good. We managed to do it without removing the inlet manifold.

    undo the allen keys bolts on the rocker cover. do this by grinding an allen key down to get in the gap or use a chisel to tap the grub screw to get it moving then use a magnet stick to remove it. this is were you stick the fiat tools to align the cams, now undo the cog bolts on the camshafts ends (cambelt end). stick a snap on camera through the hole where the fiat tool goes and you will see a notch in the camshaft. move the crank round until the cam grooves are equal at each side (you will see what i mean when you look at the monitor). tighten the camwheel cogs back up. do the same on the other camshaft. you are now good to go.

    so even if your mechanic checks your timing belt marks this will make no difference as its the cams that have moved leaving the cam wheel sin the correct place showing the timing to be ok when actually its not. its a bit like having vernier cams on a racing car.

    print this out and show a mechanic whos is good and he should understand it.

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    I confirm.
    After setting camshaft timing everything is ok!
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