Originally Posted by PNL

Its not to hard to make your own from silicone hoses..the gain from the GSR one isnt great on the 1.2 anyway and its mostly the noise it gives off that gets people thinking they are on brands hatch and going faster than they really are for what you will get from the induction you would just be as wise to fit a panel filter ..and secure in the thought that you wont be sucking up water from the road at the same time would be a big bonus as course..the reputation of the company has gone down the pan [not that it was ever great in the first place ]you only have to look on fiat forum and other sites to see that..I was involved with GSR [not financially ]as many of you know and TBO I am so glad I no longer am with shoddy workmanship and mounting complaints how long can this company continue on..it was also reported on another forum that the company was not registered in the owners name or address so you have to wonder what the hell is going on there..no receipts ever given and a shoddy customer service and a delivery to the door for cash just has to get you wondering .. the only reason that it does are the people that recommend him and you just have to wonder and question the mentality behind that and why they do it..

As I said, was basically going to get a GSR based on rep as a few people I knew that had got good one's (not like the one in the vid) thought they were great and much better than the equivalent K&N. The water thing didn't bother me too much as I've still got my undertray which would of course offer (some) protection.

Was speaking to some people at the Italian Day at St Andrews today and they all concur with what you're saying though. I mean, one guy had a GSR on his GP 1.4 and though he thinks it's great, he said the customer service was attrocious. Think it took him 2 months to get it for example and that was only after hassling them about it every other week.

Also chatted about making one up from a cone and piping off eBay and the like. May well look into that as for money, it'd probably be the cheaper option and at the moment, it could be a better made option. Had thought about a panel filter, but rather like the induction noise (I know, it's pointless, but I like it). Plus I could get rid of the airbox, which although painted, is still a big bit of plastic sat on top of the engine that I wouldn't need if I put a more presentable/ less plastic induction kit on.

Obviously I want the performance gain as well, not necessarily just raw BHP, but just more driveability. Anyway though, I'll look into it. I think my next mod will be an exhaust rather than induction while I mull over the latter

Originally Posted by PNL

Come the time and when your ready we can give you some idea how to construct your own induction tube and where to get the filters.. I made my own for the panda and it was easy [got the original air box back on now] the GSR one for the panda was made using my car and even I sent it back when it was sent to me free of cost.. water sucker I do not want thankyou very much.. he sold one and the kit flopped

Cool, cheers. Shall keep it in mind

Looking on Motorsport World, amongst others, have seen the BMC CDA for the mk2 Punto 1.2 16v. Have heard good things about this for the Stilos...2.4 being a good example. Looks like it should fit in my engine bay, so pondering whether to go for that now that the GSR is perhaps a no go. Saying that though, building my own still has an appeal

There's a pic on the Motorsport World site and the CDA's basically just attached to the standard air intake pipe where the old airbox would have been attached using what looks like a small bit of silicone pipe. Here's the relevant pic... http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/sho...c/large/6C.jpg

Of course, the Stilo's bay's a little differently spaced. I can't see a problem with space though, so looks like a good option :)

Aye, had a quick look on there and there's certainly an interesting selection. Does it really matter about things like thickness of the actual piping all along? I'm guessing as long as it's a consistent size all the way, it should be fine.

Also thinking about the positioning. I know it could go down behind the radiator like the GSR, but pondering just leaving it higher up where the original air intake funnel goes (between the bonnet and the top of the grille). It'd be far better positioned than the K&N for example, as it wouldn't be right over the engine rocker. Was pretty surprised when I saw those pics on the K&N fitting guide

Was mainly considering the CDA as I haven't heard a bad word said about them apart from maybe being a little tricky to fit. I'm starting to get used to getting my hands dirty under the bonnet now though, so I wouldn't mind that :)

Yeah, hadn't seen one specifically listed for my particular Stilo, but the conversations I had yesterday with people got me thinking on exploring more options than just going for the default GSR like I was certainly going to. I think that video's really put the cat amongst the pigeons for anyone considering buying one of their induction kits, like myself.

When I was looking on the MW site, I was looking basically for one's designed for the 1.2 16v in a Fiat and went from there to noticing there was one for the Punto. Engine bay layout looks similar and the fact that the CDA isn't model specific perhaps gives a bit more flexibility in how I could fit it and the piping I could use.

Saying that though, the filters and pipes available on eBay were pretty cheap. If I can work out the mounting points and lengths of pipe, etc, it could be a more effective/better use of £££s than defaulting to the BMC option. I'm not ridiculously bothered by brands, so long as what ever I put on does the job :)